What caused the rise of the communist party in China? What factors made it happen?

The USA supported the Red Army as an ally against the Japanese, but the Red Army never entered conflict with the Japanese directly, and thus was able to build strength to take over after the war.

What caused the rise of the communist party in China? What factors made it happen?
Mao-tse-tung happened. See Wikipidia, its a long story, but essentially, China was getting from worse to worst, after the Japanese where defeated by the USA. Different then Africa, where there has never been a history of discipline and work China had 5000 years of positive traditions to fall back on. But the overpopulation got out of control and a democracy would not have allowed the severe decisions, necessary, to get China back on track. Its not really communism, its a dictatorship, like the USSR was, disguised under the banner of Marx. It is astonishing, that China has managed to get so far, but it had a lot of help to build up industrial power from Europe, mainly Germany.
Reply:I think a bunch of Democrats moved there. Then they demanded forced abortions and socialism.
Reply:A lot of factors resulted in that and dates back to the early 19th century. Prior to that, westerners who visited China were often awe struck by its society and culture, many believing it was superior to the west.





Where it finally came undone is this:





British merchents, along with their government was illegally importing opium into China for a long time and it became such a big problem for China that they ended up going to war with Britian in 1840 and were defeated. Which resulted in what the Chinese people called the unequal treaties.





In 1856, another opium war broke out resulting again in China's defeat. Again, another series of unequal treaties resulted.





These treaties made British citizens exampt from Chinese law, forced them to allow opium to be legal in China (which resulted in 90% of the males in the coastal area's to be addicted) made China pay huge reparations, reduced China's terrifs substantially, forced them to open up all of China to foreigners, and banned Chinese officials from calling British officials as Yi, or barbarian.





Thus the seeds for the Boxer rebellion were born and in 1900 that broke out, which was the result of unfettered foreign influence in China. That is when the people rised up against foreigners.





The result was another series of unequal treaties which eventually weakened dynasty rule to the point where in 1912 that came to an end. The last emperor, "Henry" Puyi holding only a ceremonial role.





The Republic of China was thus born that had huge ties to the west.





The above history as told by others here is pretty accurate. What I want to add is this. Mao was sick and tired of the wests influence over China that when his military won against the Republic of China on October 1st, 1949, thus the Peoples Republic of China was born, he kicked out all western business interests and closed the country till 1972 when Nixon visited Mao in Beijing.





The west is as much to blame for China going communist as they have been to blame for other countries pretty much going in an opposite direction of our intent. Two recent cases, Iraq and Afghanistan.





Today, China is very careful in letting unfettered business access by the west. Western run businesses are now jointly run by Chinese business people and interests as well as western.





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Other points to consider is this:





China is not communist nor is it socialistic.


It is also often referred to as totalitarian and a dictatorship.


Both are equally as wrong too.





Communism:


is a the opposite of capitalism so therefore it is impossible they are communistic. The first people who were allowed to use limited capitalism were the farmers back in the 50's because of the failure of collective farming. The whole country is one huge capitalistic machine now.





Socialistic:


means the state controls all production, manufacturing and business. That is impossible as well since individuals own businesses and those state run businesses are a mixture of state and private working side by side. Currently today, less then 20% is state owned. 30 years ago it was 100%. Example, their oil industry is a mix of private and state working together and their cost per gallon of gas is $2.25. There are no taxes added, all the revenue and profits are done before that with both private and state profiting. The USA could do that same, but we'd rather pay $1 more per gallon then allow any kind of socialism to creep into our economy. Our socialism is through war for oil while ignoring what the people really need.





Totalitarian:


means the state controls all aspects of life. That is simply not the case as individuals are free to seek new employment, open businesses, travel at will, immigrate, buy homes, become rich, buy any consumer product they want without permission, in short, do just about anything the people in the west take for granted.





Dictatorship:


They have an election system in place that is at the province level. Those elected officials, who are elected by the people, are then sent to Beijing to represent the people there and those people elect the president, much like many government systems in the world, like Britain.





One party rule:


True, but in recent years the government is encouraging people from outside the party to become involved in government and politics. They can also hold high office, something that was unheard of a few years ago. China understands that it needs new blood in its system in order to survive and do the will of the people otherwise China will stagnate.





What type of government does China have?


At this point, it is hard to say, because it is a mixture of democratic ideals, federalism, socialism, and authoritarian. From what I can see, and how China likes change slowly, that it is slowly morphing into a democratic federal republic, much like the USA has now. But at their own pace, not the instant change that the west demands of China. China is smart enough to know that instant change can have social and political repercussions and its best to take it slowly as to not wake the angry dragon of discontent and descent.





Source:


My experience, living here as an ex pat from the USA


My web site.


http://www.pbase.com/sailingjim





http://www.china.org.cn


and see how their system works. Use their search engine and put in the words democracy, then communism, then socialism. You'll probably be surprised at the results you get. Keep in mind, the people read the same things you will read there.





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Looking at the China bashing pragmatically instead of with a blind eye like so many do.





The Amnesty International types of organizations depend on donations to survive. Therefore, they have a vested interest to believe one side of the story while ignoring the other side to keep up the hate and the money coming in.





Therefore, what should be done is we need to look into the lifestyle of the CEO's of these organizations, what percentage of donations goes into education vs administrative, salaries, etc.





What I find disingenuous with so many people is they will selectively believe these organizations on issues they want to believe, while condemning them on issues they don't want to believe.





Much of the information comes from people who have a ax to grind, or the information is collected from 3rd and 4th parties. Remember, we went to war in Iraq, in part, because of the word of ex pats who made claims that have since been disproved, even outright lies.





I live here in China as an ex pat from the USA and teach in a college. I expected to meet dissidents, and to date, I have not met one. The people in China seem to be very apathetic and it took me a long time to figure out why. It's because they have more freedom then anytime in their history and they are grateful for that. The biggest complaint I have heard about the government from students is they don't spend enough on education.





A final thing to ponder is Tianamen Square. Few in the states know why it started. It was because the government cut back on college spending and the students were upset. It morphed into a democracy movement and the crowds were huge only because the people were curious. The reason the movement was brutally crushed (I do not support that) is because with world wide attention, plus it was all over the Chinese news that the government appeared to be weak and could possibly be overthrown. The aftermath of that, is anyones guess what they would have ended up with. We are now seeing what instant change has done in two countries that we have gone to war with that never had democracy before and have a long history of human rights abuses.





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They have a very stable society and government.


Foreign companies are not afraid to invest there.


China learns by its successes and mistakes.


China is a very old and wise country.


China has an over abundance of brain power


China is very innovative.


China is not afraid to go outside of their country for answers to questions and problems they have.


China is very careful not to let foreign investment take over like they allowed to happen two centuries ago.


China plans for the future through five year and one year plans that are changable.


China's government is slowly morphing into a federal democratic republic, much like the USA but at their own pace.


China realizes that to limit people in government only to one party is counter productive and in recent years is encouraging people outside the party to become involved in government and even run for office.





China is much of what we want her to be and little of what we think she is.





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Peace





Jim








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Reply:Well I am not sure how it started by the Chinese government was weakened immensely by WWII and that allowed the communist to complete their take over.
Reply:The Govt of Chang Kaichek(believe that what his name was but could be wrong) was corrupted %26amp; cruel which caused him to lose support %26amp; eventually be overthrown by the Communists in 1949.
Reply:scooter hit the nail on the head





the Nationalist Chaing Kai Shek government was extremely corrupt and incompetant. President Roosevelt a huge supporter of them finally admitted soon before his death that he had made a huge mistake supporting them and had picked the wrong horse.





During an inspection tour of Nationalists military camps the US generals found that none of the billions of dollars of equipment we had sent there was going to the troops, instead there were huge wharehouses full of US equipment there. Chaing's idea was to let the US beat the Japs so he wouldnt have to fight them (just the opposite of what the US was looking for) and then use the weapons against Mao.





What Chaing didnt realize in the corrupt system he ran his subordanants were selling the US supplied equipment and food to the Japanese and the Communists.





Also thier treament of their own poeple was not much better than the japanses invaders





As an example the Nationalist army would come through a village and take all the young men, chain them toghther and march them to the front without food or weapons and keep them there as targets to keep the Japanese machine guns busy.





Mao on the other hand avoided most combat when possible, put all recruits onto farm units and grew food and gave them thier first actual reading and writing lessons. So for the first time they were able to read, write and eat enough food.





while Mao was also definitely a bad guy as history would show he was alot better to the common man than the Nationalists were and there fore it was a matter of time before the Nationalists lost thier support and Mao would win the civil war.
Reply:It is because China needs ideology that can give them hope and strength to survive. The important thing for them is not about how to dominate the world by having unilateral power. The most important thing for them is how make live become wealth and live in peace. That is how communist party in China surviving.
Reply:How do I know? I lived it.


According to the party, this was the natural result of movement towards socialism in the history of China. With the end of the Emporer Pu Yi and the revolt of Sun Yat Sen. the communists defeated pro western dictator Chang Kai Shak because he was an urban war lord.


Chairman Mau was from a rural area, and his parents were peasants, like most people of China.


Mao took much time and effort to emphasize this all of his life to win the support of the peasants.

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