Bought in Watertown, NY. Was my Grandmother's %26amp; we would like to add pieces to it. Never have seen anything like it. Please let us know. Thanks a lot.
Need Theodore Haviland large rose china pattern. Empsall's Dept.Watn.NY store, sold these in the early 1900's
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Sunday, April 26, 2009
Dinnerware made in occupiedJapan rose china?
For today's collector, the ambiguities that surround Noritake and Morimura brothers can be overwhelming. The loss of extensive company records during World War II also makes some questions forever unanswerable.
A brief chronology leading to the "ROSE CHINA" back stamp follows:
In 1876, Baron Ichizaemon Morimura IV formed a trading company called Morimura Kumi (Morimura Brothers).
A visit by Ichizaemon Morimura IV to the World Fair in Paris helped shape the idea of trying to manufacture a high quality, modern, western style dinnerware for export, in Japan.
In January 1904 the "Nippon Toki Kaisha Ltd" - the forerunner to the present "Noritake Company" - was formed. The factory was located near a source of good and plentiful raw materials and in a community rich with skilled potters. The site was the small village of Noritake near Nagoya, the center of Japan's ceramic production, on the main island of Honshu. The first Japanese registry for a "Noritake" back stamp is reported as 1908 for use in Japan.
Marks with the initials "RC" ("Royal Crokery") have a special place in the Noritake production. The initials are first found in marks registered in Japan in 1908, where "RC" ("Royal Crockery") is combined with a "Yajirobe" or a mechanical balance toy. It is said to symbolize the universal problem of finding a balance in business, such as between quality and price. It is not clear how long this symbol was used but in 1911, the first marks with the famous laurel wreath were registered in Japan, as well as a series of circular marks with the "RC" drawn in an Art Noveu style.
In 1926, a back stamp with "RC" ("Royal Crockery") with a right turned laurel twig was registered in India for the India and Southeast Asian markets.
After WWI most back stamps were changed to state "Japan" or "Made in Japan".
From the company's early understanding of western taste and mass production, Noritake understood western methods of mass marketing. It is not surprising that from the late 1920's, until the bombing of Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941 put a most unwanted stop to normal business, "Hand Painted Imported Noritake China" was offered as a premium.
In 1941, the export offices were closed and direct export to the US was not resumed before 1948. Noritake wares from circa 1948 to 1952 may bear a number of marks including "Made in Occupied Japan" and "Occupied Japan."
In 1963, the company started to use its English name "Noritake Company Ltd."
Early Noritake china dinnerware featured the "Hand Painted Nippon" design around the familiar wreath-circled "M" for "Morimura" on the back stamp of most pieces.
"Noritake" appears on back stamps of other pieces, with either "Japan" or "Made in Japan" present on most of these.
FOR A PERIOD FOLLOWING WORLD WAR II FROM 1945 TO 1948 "NORITAKE CHINA" WAS SOLD UNDER THE LABEL "ROSE CHINA".
IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SECOND WW, "NORITAKE" WAS TEMPORARILY DROPPED FROM THE MARKS AND "RC" REAPPEARED WITH "ROSE CHINA" TOGETHER WITH A PICTURE OF A ROSE AND THE WORDS "MADE IN JAPAN."
Since the quality immediately after the war was not up to the pre-war standard, Noritake preferred to save the valuable "Noritake brand" name until later. By 1947, we find the "Noritake" name used together with the "Komaru" (overcoming difficulties) symbol, sometimes over the telltale line "Made in Occupied Japan".
In 1953 the letter "N" for "Noritake" in a wreath replaced the long used "M" in a wreath. According to collectors, the number of known different "Noritake" back marks are more then 400.
A brief chronology leading to the "ROSE CHINA" back stamp follows:
In 1876, Baron Ichizaemon Morimura IV formed a trading company called Morimura Kumi (Morimura Brothers).
A visit by Ichizaemon Morimura IV to the World Fair in Paris helped shape the idea of trying to manufacture a high quality, modern, western style dinnerware for export, in Japan.
In January 1904 the "Nippon Toki Kaisha Ltd" - the forerunner to the present "Noritake Company" - was formed. The factory was located near a source of good and plentiful raw materials and in a community rich with skilled potters. The site was the small village of Noritake near Nagoya, the center of Japan's ceramic production, on the main island of Honshu. The first Japanese registry for a "Noritake" back stamp is reported as 1908 for use in Japan.
Marks with the initials "RC" ("Royal Crokery") have a special place in the Noritake production. The initials are first found in marks registered in Japan in 1908, where "RC" ("Royal Crockery") is combined with a "Yajirobe" or a mechanical balance toy. It is said to symbolize the universal problem of finding a balance in business, such as between quality and price. It is not clear how long this symbol was used but in 1911, the first marks with the famous laurel wreath were registered in Japan, as well as a series of circular marks with the "RC" drawn in an Art Noveu style.
In 1926, a back stamp with "RC" ("Royal Crockery") with a right turned laurel twig was registered in India for the India and Southeast Asian markets.
After WWI most back stamps were changed to state "Japan" or "Made in Japan".
From the company's early understanding of western taste and mass production, Noritake understood western methods of mass marketing. It is not surprising that from the late 1920's, until the bombing of Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941 put a most unwanted stop to normal business, "Hand Painted Imported Noritake China" was offered as a premium.
In 1941, the export offices were closed and direct export to the US was not resumed before 1948. Noritake wares from circa 1948 to 1952 may bear a number of marks including "Made in Occupied Japan" and "Occupied Japan."
In 1963, the company started to use its English name "Noritake Company Ltd."
Early Noritake china dinnerware featured the "Hand Painted Nippon" design around the familiar wreath-circled "M" for "Morimura" on the back stamp of most pieces.
"Noritake" appears on back stamps of other pieces, with either "Japan" or "Made in Japan" present on most of these.
FOR A PERIOD FOLLOWING WORLD WAR II FROM 1945 TO 1948 "NORITAKE CHINA" WAS SOLD UNDER THE LABEL "ROSE CHINA".
IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SECOND WW, "NORITAKE" WAS TEMPORARILY DROPPED FROM THE MARKS AND "RC" REAPPEARED WITH "ROSE CHINA" TOGETHER WITH A PICTURE OF A ROSE AND THE WORDS "MADE IN JAPAN."
Since the quality immediately after the war was not up to the pre-war standard, Noritake preferred to save the valuable "Noritake brand" name until later. By 1947, we find the "Noritake" name used together with the "Komaru" (overcoming difficulties) symbol, sometimes over the telltale line "Made in Occupied Japan".
In 1953 the letter "N" for "Noritake" in a wreath replaced the long used "M" in a wreath. According to collectors, the number of known different "Noritake" back marks are more then 400.
ANTIQUE DISHES: what is the value of staffordshire hand painted china antique rose 4123 by Ridgway?
I am curious what the value of my dishes are. I have a set of dishes with a stamp on the back that reads:
SR
Genuine
Hand Engraving
by
Ridgway
EST-Ironstone 1792
Staffordshire
England
All Colours Guaranteed
Underglaze and
Detergent Proof
"Antique Rose" 4125
ANTIQUE DISHES: what is the value of staffordshire hand painted china antique rose 4123 by Ridgway?
You do not say how many pieces you have. That makes a huge difference.
The pieces if in absolutely mint condition could be sold by you for these approximate prices:
Cup and Saucer Set (Flat) $8
Dinner Plate $9
Salad Plate $4
Cereal Bowl $4.50
Creamer $10
Sugar Bowl and Lid $14
If they are not mint lower the prices. This is a modern set and is readily available so doesn't have a great deal of value.
Reply:You should go on antique road show!
SR
Genuine
Hand Engraving
by
Ridgway
EST-Ironstone 1792
Staffordshire
England
All Colours Guaranteed
Underglaze and
Detergent Proof
"Antique Rose" 4125
ANTIQUE DISHES: what is the value of staffordshire hand painted china antique rose 4123 by Ridgway?
You do not say how many pieces you have. That makes a huge difference.
The pieces if in absolutely mint condition could be sold by you for these approximate prices:
Cup and Saucer Set (Flat) $8
Dinner Plate $9
Salad Plate $4
Cereal Bowl $4.50
Creamer $10
Sugar Bowl and Lid $14
If they are not mint lower the prices. This is a modern set and is readily available so doesn't have a great deal of value.
Reply:You should go on antique road show!
Looking for Cunninghan and Picket china Virginia Rose Petit Point CP95?
. Cunninghan and Picket , Alliance , Ohio Looking for a sugar bowl by Cunninghan and Picket. Pattern Virginia Rose Petit Point Gold trim CP95
Looking for Cunninghan and Picket china Virginia Rose Petit Point CP95?
You can find it at www.replacements.com:
http://www.replacements.com/webquote/CUP...
Looks like they have the sugar bowl in your pattern. Replacements.com is the best site for finding replacement pieces for your china, silver, and glassware. I love it!
Reply:Where is your question, this is not an ad website. Try another website instead.
Looking for Cunninghan and Picket china Virginia Rose Petit Point CP95?
You can find it at www.replacements.com:
http://www.replacements.com/webquote/CUP...
Looks like they have the sugar bowl in your pattern. Replacements.com is the best site for finding replacement pieces for your china, silver, and glassware. I love it!
Reply:Where is your question, this is not an ad website. Try another website instead.
Royal Albert China Moonlight Rose Old Country Roses??
So I was watching Royal Doulton on HSN today, and I saw the Old Country Roses pattern in blue, and they called in Moonlight Rose. I LOVE it. I found it online, but it is NO WHERE on the royaldoulton.com site. Is this pattern authentic? Is what is on HSN authentic?
Royal Albert China Moonlight Rose Old Country Roses??
I am not familiar with HSN products, but it's possible that Royal Doulton manufactured this pattern just for HSN.
I would think if they advertised it as Royal Doulton, it would have to be, unless it's a knock-off and they used some kind of subtle disclaimer.
If you love it, I'd get it. Does it really matter what the brand name is, if you are absolutely crazy about it? It sounds really pretty.
I wouldn't care what it was or where it came from if I loved it and I knew it would set a fabulous table. You'll enjoy it if you are like it a lot, and you'll be proud to use it as your dinner service for guests. Go for it!
Reply:Moonlight Rose is a well-known Royal Albert pattern, and can be found on Royal Doulton's Canadian or U.K. websites (choose your country bottom righthand corner - www.royaldoulton.com... it is widely available on eBay. Report It
flowers funeral
Royal Albert China Moonlight Rose Old Country Roses??
I am not familiar with HSN products, but it's possible that Royal Doulton manufactured this pattern just for HSN.
I would think if they advertised it as Royal Doulton, it would have to be, unless it's a knock-off and they used some kind of subtle disclaimer.
If you love it, I'd get it. Does it really matter what the brand name is, if you are absolutely crazy about it? It sounds really pretty.
I wouldn't care what it was or where it came from if I loved it and I knew it would set a fabulous table. You'll enjoy it if you are like it a lot, and you'll be proud to use it as your dinner service for guests. Go for it!
Reply:Moonlight Rose is a well-known Royal Albert pattern, and can be found on Royal Doulton's Canadian or U.K. websites (choose your country bottom righthand corner - www.royaldoulton.com... it is widely available on eBay. Report It
flowers funeral
Where can I buy a Rose Tree of China ?
A Rose Tree of China is a shrub and I would like it now
Where can I buy a Rose Tree of China ?
It's more commonly called Flowering Almond (Prunus triloba) or Dwarf Flowering Almond ( Prunus glandulosa) . Try a local garden center . While you're there , look at all the other plants . I'd bet EVERY one of them is more worthwhile. ;D I'm partly joking, but mostly not . It looks good for about a week , %26amp; looks like crap the other 51 weeks . Very prone to insects, disease , %26amp; winterkill . Afterall, it IS a Prunus(cherry). If you must have it , put it out of the way, where you can ignore it, when not in bloom . If all else fails, look for it at Wal-Mart,(last place I saw it, ~ 5yrs ago) and other such places . It's a perfect fit for them.
* From Michael Dirr , in THE MANUAL OF WOODY LANDSCAPE PLANTS " ....the bargain basement shrub of many discount store;...". ; "..a spreading, weakly multi-stemmed, straggly shrub.."; .. "Basically a a very poor plant, single season quality, appearing distraught and alone in summer,fall , and winter..;" .... "disappears when not in flower.Perhaps it's not all bad...: %26amp; about the non-dwarf, dbl form : " ..is a large(12-15') cumbersome,clumsy shrub, with tree-like qualities..." ; " ..are often nipped by a late freeze ..."
I agree . Should I continue ? ;D Think : VIBURNUM,FOTHERGILLA, SASKATOON SERVICEBERRY ( AMELANCHIER ALNIFOLIA) ( Please!)
Reply:China
Where can I buy a Rose Tree of China ?
It's more commonly called Flowering Almond (Prunus triloba) or Dwarf Flowering Almond ( Prunus glandulosa) . Try a local garden center . While you're there , look at all the other plants . I'd bet EVERY one of them is more worthwhile. ;D I'm partly joking, but mostly not . It looks good for about a week , %26amp; looks like crap the other 51 weeks . Very prone to insects, disease , %26amp; winterkill . Afterall, it IS a Prunus(cherry). If you must have it , put it out of the way, where you can ignore it, when not in bloom . If all else fails, look for it at Wal-Mart,(last place I saw it, ~ 5yrs ago) and other such places . It's a perfect fit for them.
* From Michael Dirr , in THE MANUAL OF WOODY LANDSCAPE PLANTS " ....the bargain basement shrub of many discount store;...". ; "..a spreading, weakly multi-stemmed, straggly shrub.."; .. "Basically a a very poor plant, single season quality, appearing distraught and alone in summer,fall , and winter..;" .... "disappears when not in flower.Perhaps it's not all bad...: %26amp; about the non-dwarf, dbl form : " ..is a large(12-15') cumbersome,clumsy shrub, with tree-like qualities..." ; " ..are often nipped by a late freeze ..."
I agree . Should I continue ? ;D Think : VIBURNUM,FOTHERGILLA, SASKATOON SERVICEBERRY ( AMELANCHIER ALNIFOLIA) ( Please!)
Reply:China
Which part of carpel is enclosed by staminode in china rose (hibiscus).?
style of the carpel are covered by the staminodes in the plant hibiscus.
What is the scientifiic name of cobra, maize and china rose?
1) what is the scientifiic name of cobra ?
Ans.= The scientific name of cobra is =Naja ;
But cobra itself is too common a name having several species. If you click on the link below ,you will get a number of Naja species and good information about them = just click on the link below =
http://biology.bangor.ac.uk/~bss166/Taxa...
2) what is the scientifiic name of maize ?
Ans.= The scientific name of Maize is = Zea mays =
Maize= (Zea mays )known as corn in the Americas and Australia, is a cereal grain that was domesticated in Mesoamerica and then spread throughout the American continents.
Maize spread to the rest of the world after European contact with the Americas in the late 15th century and early 16th century.
Many forms of maize are used for food, sometimes classified as various subspecies:
Flour corn — Zea mays var. amylacea
Popcorn — Zea mays var. everta
Dent corn — Zea mays var. indentata
Flint corn — Zea mays var. indurata
Sweetcorn — Zea mays var. saccharata and Zea mays var. rugosa
Waxy corn — Zea mays var. ceratina
Amylomaize — Zea mays
Pod corn — Zea mays var. tunicata LarraƱaga ex A. St. Hil.
Striped maize - Zea mays var. japonica
3 ) What is the scientifiic name of china rose?
Ans.= There are two entirely different plants that are commonly referred to as 'China Rose '
i ) Rosa chinensis, known commonly as the China Rose is a member of the genus Rosa native to central China in Guizhou, Hubei, and Sichuan.
It is a shrub growing to 1-2 m tall. The leaves are pinnate, with 3-5 leaflets, each leaflet 2.5–6 cm long and 1–3 cm broad. In the wild species (sometimes listed as Rosa chinensis var. spontanea), the flowers have five pink to red petals. The fruit is a red hip 1-2 cm diameter.
Photo of the china rose mentioned above =click the link below=
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
i i ) Hibiscus rosa-sinensis (family Malvaceae), known colloquially as the Chinese hibiscus, is an evergreen flowering shrub native to East Asia.
((((( It is also known as China rose and shoe flower. )))))
It is widely grown as an ornamental plant throughout the tropics and subtropics. The flowers are large, (generally red in the original varieties), firm, but generally lack any scent. Numerous varieties, cultivars and hybrids are available, with flower colors ranging from white through yellow and orange to scarlet and shades of pink, with both single and double sets of petals.
Despite their size and red hues attractive to hectar-feeding birds, they are not visited regularly by hummingbirds when grown in the Neotropics. Generalists, (like the Sapphire-spangled Emerald, Amazilia lactea) or long-billed species (like the Stripe-breasted Starthroat, Heliomaster squamosus) may occasionally be seen to visit it, however.
In the subtropical and temperate Americas, hummingbirds are attracted to them on a regular basis.
Photograph of the china rose mentioned in ( i i ) above =click on the link below =
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
From = A Botanist
What is the scientifiic name of cobra, maize and china rose?
Thanks for the honor and the comment!! Report It
Reply:I hope this helps.
Ans.= The scientific name of cobra is =Naja ;
But cobra itself is too common a name having several species. If you click on the link below ,you will get a number of Naja species and good information about them = just click on the link below =
http://biology.bangor.ac.uk/~bss166/Taxa...
2) what is the scientifiic name of maize ?
Ans.= The scientific name of Maize is = Zea mays =
Maize= (Zea mays )known as corn in the Americas and Australia, is a cereal grain that was domesticated in Mesoamerica and then spread throughout the American continents.
Maize spread to the rest of the world after European contact with the Americas in the late 15th century and early 16th century.
Many forms of maize are used for food, sometimes classified as various subspecies:
Flour corn — Zea mays var. amylacea
Popcorn — Zea mays var. everta
Dent corn — Zea mays var. indentata
Flint corn — Zea mays var. indurata
Sweetcorn — Zea mays var. saccharata and Zea mays var. rugosa
Waxy corn — Zea mays var. ceratina
Amylomaize — Zea mays
Pod corn — Zea mays var. tunicata LarraƱaga ex A. St. Hil.
Striped maize - Zea mays var. japonica
3 ) What is the scientifiic name of china rose?
Ans.= There are two entirely different plants that are commonly referred to as 'China Rose '
i ) Rosa chinensis, known commonly as the China Rose is a member of the genus Rosa native to central China in Guizhou, Hubei, and Sichuan.
It is a shrub growing to 1-2 m tall. The leaves are pinnate, with 3-5 leaflets, each leaflet 2.5–6 cm long and 1–3 cm broad. In the wild species (sometimes listed as Rosa chinensis var. spontanea), the flowers have five pink to red petals. The fruit is a red hip 1-2 cm diameter.
Photo of the china rose mentioned above =click the link below=
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
i i ) Hibiscus rosa-sinensis (family Malvaceae), known colloquially as the Chinese hibiscus, is an evergreen flowering shrub native to East Asia.
((((( It is also known as China rose and shoe flower. )))))
It is widely grown as an ornamental plant throughout the tropics and subtropics. The flowers are large, (generally red in the original varieties), firm, but generally lack any scent. Numerous varieties, cultivars and hybrids are available, with flower colors ranging from white through yellow and orange to scarlet and shades of pink, with both single and double sets of petals.
Despite their size and red hues attractive to hectar-feeding birds, they are not visited regularly by hummingbirds when grown in the Neotropics. Generalists, (like the Sapphire-spangled Emerald, Amazilia lactea) or long-billed species (like the Stripe-breasted Starthroat, Heliomaster squamosus) may occasionally be seen to visit it, however.
In the subtropical and temperate Americas, hummingbirds are attracted to them on a regular basis.
Photograph of the china rose mentioned in ( i i ) above =click on the link below =
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
From = A Botanist
What is the scientifiic name of cobra, maize and china rose?
Thanks for the honor and the comment!! Report It
Reply:I hope this helps.
I want a bisectional view of a china -rose..?
All its parts like the calyx, corolla, petals, androecium, gynoecium, etc should be marked
I want a bisectional view of a china -rose..?
Click on the link below --
http://www.life.uiuc.edu/help/digitalflo...
You can enlarge it slightly by clicking on 4 arrows that appear at the lower corner when you put the curser (mouse ) on the picture itself when it is on the screen.
office table
I want a bisectional view of a china -rose..?
Click on the link below --
http://www.life.uiuc.edu/help/digitalflo...
You can enlarge it slightly by clicking on 4 arrows that appear at the lower corner when you put the curser (mouse ) on the picture itself when it is on the screen.
office table
I have a Spode Copeland plate China Rose. But unlike all the others I have seen it is not painted, Just brown?
If you want a definative answer email
spodemuseum@spode.co.uk
They know it all...
I have a Spode Copeland plate China Rose. But unlike all the others I have seen it is not painted, Just brown?
really
Reply:Spode were early into porcelain and made plates etc for others to decorate as well as for their own decoration. This could have been one of those. On the other hand in the Copeland Spode period they produced many items like tea services which were very plain and with a minimum of decoration but quite a lot of gilding. I am not sure I have understood "just brown" as this sounds like earthenware rather than porcelain
spodemuseum@spode.co.uk
They know it all...
I have a Spode Copeland plate China Rose. But unlike all the others I have seen it is not painted, Just brown?
really
Reply:Spode were early into porcelain and made plates etc for others to decorate as well as for their own decoration. This could have been one of those. On the other hand in the Copeland Spode period they produced many items like tea services which were very plain and with a minimum of decoration but quite a lot of gilding. I am not sure I have understood "just brown" as this sounds like earthenware rather than porcelain
What is china rose?does it belong to hibiscus family?does this flower contain soapy properties??
It is hibiscus itself !!!!
Chinese rose or China rose may also refer to any of numerous garden roses derived from a shrubby Chinese rose (Rosa chinensis):
1 ) Hibiscus rosa-sinensis = It is the common Hibiscus . The specific epithet ' rosa-sinensis ' literally means "chinese rose "
It belongs to Malvaceae family . And does not contain any soapy properties .
click the link for a good image =
http://www.hibiscusholidays.com/images/h...
http://eiknit.com/images/uploads/Hibiscu...
2 )Rosa chinensis = It is yet another and totally different plant / flower that is called Chinese rose !!
Rosa chinensis, known commonly as the China Rose is a member of the genus Rosa and Family Rosaceae , native to central China in Guizhou, Hubei, and Sichuan.
It is a shrub growing to 1-2 m tall. The leaves are pinnate, with 3-5 leaflets, each leaflet 2.5–6 cm long and 1–3 cm broad.
In the wild species (sometimes listed as Rosa chinensis var. spontanea), the flowers have five pink to red petals. The fruit is a red hip 1-2 cm diameter.
No, it has also no soapy properties .
click the link for an excellent image =
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
From= A Botanist
Chinese rose or China rose may also refer to any of numerous garden roses derived from a shrubby Chinese rose (Rosa chinensis):
1 ) Hibiscus rosa-sinensis = It is the common Hibiscus . The specific epithet ' rosa-sinensis ' literally means "chinese rose "
It belongs to Malvaceae family . And does not contain any soapy properties .
click the link for a good image =
http://www.hibiscusholidays.com/images/h...
http://eiknit.com/images/uploads/Hibiscu...
2 )Rosa chinensis = It is yet another and totally different plant / flower that is called Chinese rose !!
Rosa chinensis, known commonly as the China Rose is a member of the genus Rosa and Family Rosaceae , native to central China in Guizhou, Hubei, and Sichuan.
It is a shrub growing to 1-2 m tall. The leaves are pinnate, with 3-5 leaflets, each leaflet 2.5–6 cm long and 1–3 cm broad.
In the wild species (sometimes listed as Rosa chinensis var. spontanea), the flowers have five pink to red petals. The fruit is a red hip 1-2 cm diameter.
No, it has also no soapy properties .
click the link for an excellent image =
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
From= A Botanist
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